That pretty much sums up the whole thing. I hate seeing new ( or any guys for that matter) guys do stuff taht is just plain wrong, because if I am a new guy to "A" board ( and I do consider myself new here) it gives us all a black eye:argh:DWavs said:That's the beauty of the internet. If you don't like the way a place is run, find another place to hang out. No need in "walking" around bitching about it.
While I agree that caution is well advised, perhaps some of the more recent new folks are afraid to attempt to participate in certain functions, such as trades or passes on this board because of whatever we have proven in the real world, as far as our honor is, we do not want to have to deal with this initial distrust. Paultripp said:While I think it is important that we welcome the new guys with open arms, I think we should be cautious. I dont think "we" have anything to prove to the new guys.
Maybe we should be more selective as to who we take under our wings.
This board has a great Newbie attaction. It has abundent newbie stuff to get involved with and get your feet wet.taltos said:While I agree that caution is well advised, perhaps some of the more recent new folks are afraid to attempt to participate in certain functions, such as trades or passes on this board because of whatever we have proven in the real world, as far as our honor is, we do not want to have to deal with this initial distrust. Paul
If you are refering to Tripp and his post, that "jerk" is one of THE most respected members of this or any other board and to use such a term before getting to know people or the attitudes of this board indicates to me he was exactly correct in his thinking!taltos said:CWS, first of all, after reading this thread I was irritated at the jerk that generated distrust of newbies. This group has been very welcoming to me, but my point,not very well written, was taken by me, to avoid newbies because we might be dangerous. I have cigars coming in Monday(ordered from California), and would send first, but I don't feel comfortable anymore after reading the rest of this thread. I can tell you that the only time I got screwed on ebay and on a pipe group back in the bays of bbs systems were by more experienced folks, not by newbies. I will continue to read this group, but post and trade in others. Paul
Not sure I understand this part, the 'scumbag' in question is not a part of this forum. I can only recall 1 time when members got screwed, but that was several boards wide and by a non-newbie.taltos said:I will continue to read this group, but post and trade in others. Paul
You've made 8 posts...and just joined. And now you're complaining about one of the best BOTL's on here and what he said?? If you don't like the board then don't join. It seems to me that you joined just to spout off. Very distasteful...and one of the reasons he posted his caution of newbies. Your statments just make his post more correct. I have disliked MANY cigar boards here on the internet, and have definitely found this board to me the MOST accomodating of any board out there, period. Just my .02. If I have you pegged wrong, my sincere apologies.taltos said:CWS, first of all, after reading this thread I was irritated at the jerk that generated distrust of newbies. This group has been very welcoming to me, but my point,not very well written, was taken by me, to avoid newbies because we might be dangerous. I have cigars coming in Monday(ordered from California), and would send first, but I don't feel comfortable anymore after reading the rest of this thread. I can tell you that the only time I got screwed on ebay and on a pipe group back in the bays of bbs systems were by more experienced folks, not by newbies. I will continue to read this group, but post and trade in others. Paul
That's a good point but he needs to clarify a lot more then that...the warning was posted on just about every board that allows such a thing so why is he not going to participate here when the treachery wasn't performed here?Poni said:Before we jump to any conclusions, I think the "jerk" taltos is referring to is tmj5019, the reason this thread started, and not Tripp (at least i hope).
taltos said:While I agree that caution is well advised, perhaps some of the more recent new folks are afraid to attempt to participate in certain functions, such as trades or passes on this board because of whatever we have proven in the real world, as far as our honor is, we do not want to have to deal with this initial distrust. Paul
Yeah, I think he was referring to the "Scumbag" as the jerk here.smokem94 said:Added: I may be off base if you are referring to the scumbag as the jerk and not Tripp. If so, disregard my comment.
I agree. I hope he re-thinks his views on this site...as another good member to BOTL is always a positive thing in my eyes!! But not every board is for everyone....I just feel this is the best group of guys out there.fredneck said:I believe he has misjudged this thread in general and the site as a whole.
ohpus said:So, why are you offended because you may need to send your end first on an initial trade on this or any other board?
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Yeah I didn't get that either. I think he has some growing up to do and he needs to figure some things out. Perhaps then, he will be ready to give BOTL another shot. He needs some retrospect.